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Author Topic: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)  (Read 1325 times)
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if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« on: October 27, 2006, 11:49:48 AM »

We were planning on an organized discussion of the book, chapter by chapter, but if you've finished the novel and ou'd like to talk in a more general way about it, this is the place to do that. No need to mark spoilers in this thread, as is it meant specifically for those who have already finished the book.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2006, 12:22:39 PM »

Wow.

I bawled my eyes out when Nathaniel and Bears showed up. I swear I actually felt like I was running up to hug them and finally releasing all the anger and frustration I felt from all the things done to Hannah and her family.

I think what I loved the most is that I didn't know if there would be a happy ending until the very last pages. Some of the resolutions were nothing I could have ever dreamed of, and the characters are so real, I felt a huge sense of relief that Curiosity was still around and kicking.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This book was better than I dreamed it could be. (Which really is saying alot, I knew it would be great!)
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »

Soup -- I'm so glad that it worked for you. I was pretty relieved myself when Nathaniel and Bears showed up. It felt like a rescue to me, too.

I hope other people stop in here to talk about the book when they are finished. I'd love to get some feedback.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2006, 02:12:51 PM »

Soup,
That was one of my favorite parts. I felt like I was right there with Hannah. It was a totally amazing book!�

What do you think of Hannah and Ben?
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2006, 02:15:08 PM »

I love Hannah and Ben!!!  The words...."Come to me" still give me shivers!!!!!!
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2006, 02:20:41 PM »

Kathy,
I was so happy to see Hannah and Ben get together! That's another one of my favorite parts is the Hannah and Ben chemistry. Darn, the was a really good book!!�
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2006, 02:33:04 PM »

I liked Ben a lot, but it took me a bit to get to know and like him. I didn't want Hannah to have to go through losing someone she loves again. I found him to be a bit like Strikes-the-Sky -teasing and flustering Hannah in such a perfect way. I was so very pleased that he was strong enough for Hannah, wouldn't be overshadowed by her, and he wasn't going to make her give up her family again.

Oh, and boy was he HOT!
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2006, 03:02:59 PM »

I was so very pleased that he was strong enough for Hannah, wouldn't be overshadowed by her, and he wasn't going to make her give up her family again.

Oh, and boy was he HOT!

exactly my thoughts!!� sigh!�
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2006, 05:06:47 PM »

Yes, liked Ben, very glad to see Hannah have some happiness!
I've gotta say I would've preferred to see more about the folks in Paradise (ahem, next book...), but it was nice to find out more about Jennet, Luke, and their relationship with each other. I liked the irony (if that's the right word) of them adopting Adam, as well.
I do have a question that affects the premise of the whole book (and maybe I'm just slow, and missed something big)-what exactly was Honore's (boy is THAT name ironic)
motivation for stealing Nathaniel? I get that he was a psychopath and enjoyed causing pain, but did he go to that much trouble, just to please his grand-mere? Wouldn't it have been easier to find some "nice" New Orleans girl she approved of (as opposed to Jennet) and get a legitimate heir (that was actually his...)
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2006, 05:54:33 PM »

Jennet gave Honore Nathan so that he would be safe from the false priest (sorry, the book is upstairs and I forgot how to spell his name) Nathan then was delivered to Agnes for safekeeping until Jennet could come and get him.

Agnes was told the child was Honore's, so at that time and place, even illegitimate, an heir coming from the right race could be accepted into the family.

Honore probably wanted to please his grandmere and sleep with Jennet, so he could kill two birds with one stone by bringing Nathan to Agnes.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2006, 06:52:30 PM »

I'm glad you like Ben. I'm really fond of him myself.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2006, 09:49:19 PM »

First and foremost I thought QoS was an excellent book.  There were sections I liked more than others but overall I was pleased with the way the story developed and was resolved.

My initial reaction to Hannah's casual/sexual relationship with Kit Wyndham was one of surprise.  When my daughter (16) read that part she was actually shocked and said she nolonger had respect for Hannah - I won't repeat the word she called her but I think you can guess what it was.  Possibly a reaction relevant to her age.

The way the character of Ben was developed was very good and I must admit I fell in love with him almost immediately.  I also appreciate the fact that Hannah explained what had happened to Strikes-the-Sky.  That side of her life was resolved for me because up until then I still wondered if he was actually still alive - it had been a mistake.

As far as the evil characters go Agnes & Honore Poiterin were very good.  I could almost hear Agnes talking while I read her dialogue (I pictured her in my mind she was so well described I thought).  I'll be honest I was surprised she didn't put up more of a fight when she was tied and her home set on fire.  I thought she had more  spunk in her! Honore's character didn't surprise me and his death was perfect in my eyes.  It was a nice touch Ben being responsible for his death.  I did at one stage think Nathanial would have done the deed.  Both men loving Hannah so much revenge was foremost in their minds.

I did find my attention started to wander during the extended passages in italics. Although I understood they were necessary in the development of the story I was anxious to return to Hannah and the other main characters.

I loved the ending of the story.  The use of letters written by Jennet and Elizabeth was the perfect way to end the story and tie up loose ends.  I also thought Curiosity comparing Ben to her husband Galileo was great.  Curiosity is such a respected character in the series this was a very nice touch in my opinion.

The entry into the story of Nathanial and Bears pleased me very much.  Upto that point I was missing the involvement of the family at Lakes in the Clouds.  The character of Nathanial from ITW was captured perfectly in his confidence and manner especially when he helped Ben escape from the field hospital - I like the way that was written.

Sorry for going on for so long - I thought it was a fabulous book and I look forward to the final book.
Dianne


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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2006, 09:54:20 PM »

I loved this book. I think Ben is more satisfying in some ways, than Strikes the Sky because he articulates his feelings.
Other things I liked about the book: the memento mori feeling (life was short and brutal and in some ways, more precious because of this); the facts about the different communities living in New Orleans and the almost aside about how the rich could afford to send their women and children away, but the poor couldn't; Luke falling into a job in the thick of things (a very Bonner trait); the vignettes about the other characters -- including Cousin Ethan. Hope we hear more about him in the next book; the description of Manny telling the story and Hannah articulating why he needed to. And generally, just the fact that it was more, wonderfully interesting material about characters I love. Off now, to re-read the other books.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2006, 11:49:53 PM »

You are all very good to give me feedback. It's really helpful to hear what worked and what didn't work quite so well.

DES -- I'm guessing there will be other people who have your daughter's reaction to Hannah's decisions. There are good reasons for it, but still some will be unhappy.
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Re: if you've finished Queen of Swords and want to talk about it... (SPOILERS)
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2006, 12:51:43 AM »

Rosina,
I agree with you there were good reasons for Hannah's actions and I think once people have read further on into the book they will start to understand why she did what she did.  I certainly did.  My daughter has only started reading the book so her reaction to Hannah was given immediately she read it - once she has read further into the book I am sure she will soften her attitude towards Hannah.  I think you made it very clear to the readers why she behaved in that manner and I think it was necessary for the good of the story.
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